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		By: Should I be Worried About My Child&#8217;s Pronuncation? &#8211; Speech And Health		</title>
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		By: Corey Cassidy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Stacie,

This is a great question.  We certainly want to address the needs of this child...and the needs in this case do seem to be phonological in nature.  One consideration is that, while his phonology may still be developing appropriately, his expressive language skills are taking off!  When this happens, we often see that even typical intelligibility expectations can be particularly frustrating for these children. There are several strategies that I would incorporate into intervention that, while not directly addressing the phonology, would embed the phonological skills that are still emerging. Tell me more about the strategies that you have been using...perhaps my suggestions will overlap?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stacie,</p>
<p>This is a great question.  We certainly want to address the needs of this child&#8230;and the needs in this case do seem to be phonological in nature.  One consideration is that, while his phonology may still be developing appropriately, his expressive language skills are taking off!  When this happens, we often see that even typical intelligibility expectations can be particularly frustrating for these children. There are several strategies that I would incorporate into intervention that, while not directly addressing the phonology, would embed the phonological skills that are still emerging. Tell me more about the strategies that you have been using&#8230;perhaps my suggestions will overlap?!		</p>
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		By: Stacie Jackson, M. Ed.		</title>
		<link>https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1385</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacie Jackson, M. Ed.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have had 2 children recently that were referred at 30 months because they have many words and when communicating with 1-2 word phrase, they can generally be understood, especially if context is known.  Issues, though, arise when the child, because he has many words, starts putting longer phrases together and because of the missing sounds, is very difficult to understand, to familiar and unfamiliar listeners.  The difficulty in being understood comes more from the length of the utterance and omitted or substituted sounds than it does the rate of the child&#039;s speech.  The child knows what he is trying to say and knows when others understand him, so when this happens, a tantrum often ensues because he is not clear enough to be understood.  Based on the ToT as well as the article here, he really is too young to be &quot;diagnosed&quot; with a phonological disorder.  Strategies that have been used have had some success. In this situation where language is not the issue, what strategies would you suggest?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have had 2 children recently that were referred at 30 months because they have many words and when communicating with 1-2 word phrase, they can generally be understood, especially if context is known.  Issues, though, arise when the child, because he has many words, starts putting longer phrases together and because of the missing sounds, is very difficult to understand, to familiar and unfamiliar listeners.  The difficulty in being understood comes more from the length of the utterance and omitted or substituted sounds than it does the rate of the child&#8217;s speech.  The child knows what he is trying to say and knows when others understand him, so when this happens, a tantrum often ensues because he is not clear enough to be understood.  Based on the ToT as well as the article here, he really is too young to be &#8220;diagnosed&#8221; with a phonological disorder.  Strategies that have been used have had some success. In this situation where language is not the issue, what strategies would you suggest?		</p>
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		By: Corey H. Cassidy, Ph.D, CCC-SLP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corey H. Cassidy, Ph.D, CCC-SLP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1377&quot;&gt;Jessica Schwab, M.Ed., CCC-SLP&lt;/a&gt;.

Jessica,

Thank you for your response to my blog post!  I love that you mentioned the routine--and how we are most effective in addressing intelligible speech when we target words that fit into a child&#039;s and family&#039;s everyday activities. I could not agree with your more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1377">Jessica Schwab, M.Ed., CCC-SLP</a>.</p>
<p>Jessica,</p>
<p>Thank you for your response to my blog post!  I love that you mentioned the routine&#8211;and how we are most effective in addressing intelligible speech when we target words that fit into a child&#8217;s and family&#8217;s everyday activities. I could not agree with your more!		</p>
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		By: Corey Cassidy, Ph.D., CCC-SLP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corey Cassidy, Ph.D., CCC-SLP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1382&quot;&gt;Dana Childress, M.Ed.&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Beth,

Thanks for your response.  I appreciate your feedback and believe that we agree on several counts!  I agree that eliciting sounds that are appropriate and embedded within a child’s life is an important strategy to address overall communication skills. I would actually take this idea one step further to say that for most young children, including those with whom we work, speech sound production can and should be embedded into our practice and in our everyday interactions to ensure that their development of articulation and phonology is stimulated, monitored, and on target as expected. In regard to outcomes, we should be sure that we are addressing the child’s overall functional language and communication needs (versus specific speech sounds) and that these outcomes lead to language and communication-based intervention. This might certainly include the production and elicitation of fun sounds that correspond to the routines or play in which a child and his/her family are actively engaged, including farm animals, cars and trucks, or even pirates roaming the seas! I hope that you will join us for the May Talks on Tuesday, when we discuss this very topic in greater detail!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1382">Dana Childress, M.Ed.</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Beth,</p>
<p>Thanks for your response.  I appreciate your feedback and believe that we agree on several counts!  I agree that eliciting sounds that are appropriate and embedded within a child’s life is an important strategy to address overall communication skills. I would actually take this idea one step further to say that for most young children, including those with whom we work, speech sound production can and should be embedded into our practice and in our everyday interactions to ensure that their development of articulation and phonology is stimulated, monitored, and on target as expected. In regard to outcomes, we should be sure that we are addressing the child’s overall functional language and communication needs (versus specific speech sounds) and that these outcomes lead to language and communication-based intervention. This might certainly include the production and elicitation of fun sounds that correspond to the routines or play in which a child and his/her family are actively engaged, including farm animals, cars and trucks, or even pirates roaming the seas! I hope that you will join us for the May Talks on Tuesday, when we discuss this very topic in greater detail!		</p>
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		By: Dana Childress, M.Ed.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1381&quot;&gt;Beth Pruitt&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your perspective, Beth. I think sound play can be a great strategy but like you said, learning to &quot;moo&quot; shouldn&#039;t be an end goal. I love it that one of the things you heard was &quot;shimmerytimbers&quot; - I can just hear that coming from a toddler! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1381">Beth Pruitt</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your perspective, Beth. I think sound play can be a great strategy but like you said, learning to &#8220;moo&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t be an end goal. I love it that one of the things you heard was &#8220;shimmerytimbers&#8221; &#8211; I can just hear that coming from a toddler! 🙂		</p>
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		By: Beth Pruitt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1380&quot;&gt;Corey Cassidy, Ph.D., CCC-SLP&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello -- During my scheduled session I was sitting with several moms of  2-year olds during their play date. I observed and listened for a few minutes.  This is what I heard from the other children:  argggggh, whooosh,  wock wock wock,  get him, ee o ee o ee o ee o, dis mine, ahhhhhhh,  no, shimmerytimbers,  beep beep beep beep, argggggggh,  whoosh whoosh,  got ya, tick tock tick tock,  ughhhhhhh boom, etc.  The child I was seeing jargoned constantly with his mouth slightly open and GREAT intonation, but not a single consonant and odd vowel combinations.  His mom DID want him to make some pirate sounds like his peers.    
If the &quot;scene&quot; was a farm, I bet the mom would have loved to hear animal sounds.  So, I think &quot;play sounds&quot; or whatever you want to call them ARE functional for children @12-30 months.  I also agree that it does not matter what we call it, but working on sounds IS necessary and helping the parents  &quot;challenge&quot; their child&#039;s oral musculature is of benefit (humming, using a straw instead of a nipple, chewing in the back/side of mouth, etc.).  I am not talking about working on /b/ cards for an hour, but I am talking about eliciting sounds that are appropriate in a child&#039;s life , not just  increasing the child&#039;s vocabulary.  Of course it is not the end goal, but still a goal that many parents understand and can work on easily and get quicker results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1380">Corey Cassidy, Ph.D., CCC-SLP</a>.</p>
<p>Hello &#8212; During my scheduled session I was sitting with several moms of  2-year olds during their play date. I observed and listened for a few minutes.  This is what I heard from the other children:  argggggh, whooosh,  wock wock wock,  get him, ee o ee o ee o ee o, dis mine, ahhhhhhh,  no, shimmerytimbers,  beep beep beep beep, argggggggh,  whoosh whoosh,  got ya, tick tock tick tock,  ughhhhhhh boom, etc.  The child I was seeing jargoned constantly with his mouth slightly open and GREAT intonation, but not a single consonant and odd vowel combinations.  His mom DID want him to make some pirate sounds like his peers.<br />
If the &#8220;scene&#8221; was a farm, I bet the mom would have loved to hear animal sounds.  So, I think &#8220;play sounds&#8221; or whatever you want to call them ARE functional for children @12-30 months.  I also agree that it does not matter what we call it, but working on sounds IS necessary and helping the parents  &#8220;challenge&#8221; their child&#8217;s oral musculature is of benefit (humming, using a straw instead of a nipple, chewing in the back/side of mouth, etc.).  I am not talking about working on /b/ cards for an hour, but I am talking about eliciting sounds that are appropriate in a child&#8217;s life , not just  increasing the child&#8217;s vocabulary.  Of course it is not the end goal, but still a goal that many parents understand and can work on easily and get quicker results.		</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1379&quot;&gt;Kerry Wilson, M.A. CCC-SLP&lt;/a&gt;.

Kerry,
Thank you for your post!  You make some great points.  I am happy to hear that you are experiencing a greater focus on functional language (versus specific speech sound production) within your practice—that is exactly what we should be seeing!  Unfortunately, there ARE still a lot of service providers who are focusing on outcomes that target the specific production of sounds, rather than embedding those sounds into language and communication outcomes.   I also agree with you--animal sound play is fun and engaging! –and I am certainly not suggesting that we should remove that type of play from our repertoire of activities.  I AM suggesting that targeting “animal sounds” as an outcome is not functional…I have never had a family tell me that their goal for their child is to “make animal sounds!”  Instead, they want their children to “use words” to get their needs and wants met.  So let’s work with families to help their children use words…if modeling and singing and playing with animal sounds are a strategy that we use to work TOWARD that outcome, as a means to an end, excellent!  But those animal sounds should not be the “end” in and of itself. Based on your response, I think we are already on the same page about this one!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1379">Kerry Wilson, M.A. CCC-SLP</a>.</p>
<p>Kerry,<br />
Thank you for your post!  You make some great points.  I am happy to hear that you are experiencing a greater focus on functional language (versus specific speech sound production) within your practice—that is exactly what we should be seeing!  Unfortunately, there ARE still a lot of service providers who are focusing on outcomes that target the specific production of sounds, rather than embedding those sounds into language and communication outcomes.   I also agree with you&#8211;animal sound play is fun and engaging! –and I am certainly not suggesting that we should remove that type of play from our repertoire of activities.  I AM suggesting that targeting “animal sounds” as an outcome is not functional…I have never had a family tell me that their goal for their child is to “make animal sounds!”  Instead, they want their children to “use words” to get their needs and wants met.  So let’s work with families to help their children use words…if modeling and singing and playing with animal sounds are a strategy that we use to work TOWARD that outcome, as a means to an end, excellent!  But those animal sounds should not be the “end” in and of itself. Based on your response, I think we are already on the same page about this one!		</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did not hear the talk because I was out and about seeing children, but it whether or not children ages 0-3 can have speech sound disorders/delays seems like a non-issue from my point of view. I work in 0-3 and find that parents do not come in that often saying that they want services because their child&#039;s speech is not clear enough. It happens once in a great while, but mostly (90% or more) of the time they just come in and say that &quot;little Sam is not talking as much as the other 2 year old down the street,&quot; or something along those lines. Or they might say, &quot;she has her own language,&quot; which almost always means that the child is jargoning beyond the time period when jargon is typical. We might, after seeing how well the child understands language (if they do), suspect some type of speech sound/articulation disorder or delay, but labeling a child is generally irrelevant and unnecessary. The focus is always on functional language. I don&#039;t personally know any SLPs working with this age group that focus on specific speech sounds with kids rather than functional language. I am interested to hear/read why we are supposed to stop making animal sounds with kids. They love this! Farm animals are very relevant to toddlers and high interest! I sing Old MacDonald with kids all the time, and it is a great way to get them started imitating, along with all sorts of other songs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not hear the talk because I was out and about seeing children, but it whether or not children ages 0-3 can have speech sound disorders/delays seems like a non-issue from my point of view. I work in 0-3 and find that parents do not come in that often saying that they want services because their child&#8217;s speech is not clear enough. It happens once in a great while, but mostly (90% or more) of the time they just come in and say that &#8220;little Sam is not talking as much as the other 2 year old down the street,&#8221; or something along those lines. Or they might say, &#8220;she has her own language,&#8221; which almost always means that the child is jargoning beyond the time period when jargon is typical. We might, after seeing how well the child understands language (if they do), suspect some type of speech sound/articulation disorder or delay, but labeling a child is generally irrelevant and unnecessary. The focus is always on functional language. I don&#8217;t personally know any SLPs working with this age group that focus on specific speech sounds with kids rather than functional language. I am interested to hear/read why we are supposed to stop making animal sounds with kids. They love this! Farm animals are very relevant to toddlers and high interest! I sing Old MacDonald with kids all the time, and it is a great way to get them started imitating, along with all sorts of other songs.		</p>
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		By: Dana Childress, M.Ed.		</title>
		<link>https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1378</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana Childress, M.Ed.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1377&quot;&gt;Jessica Schwab, M.Ed., CCC-SLP&lt;/a&gt;.

Beautifully written, Jessica! I love how you write about your focus on how the child&#039;s intelligibility impacts everyday life. That is exactly what Corey was talking about when she said FUNCTIONAL services!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.veipd.org/earlyintervention/2015/03/24/whats-the-bottom-line-regarding-articulation-in-ei-2/#comment-1377">Jessica Schwab, M.Ed., CCC-SLP</a>.</p>
<p>Beautifully written, Jessica! I love how you write about your focus on how the child&#8217;s intelligibility impacts everyday life. That is exactly what Corey was talking about when she said FUNCTIONAL services!		</p>
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